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bruni and the sword from the french tabloids they're both having affairs. very interesting. bill: are you shocked? martha: whether it's ano marriage situation. bill: they denied it, right? >> martha: it's a big deal! she wants to be married tom forever, though, so it's all okay. bill: we'll see. martha: have fun in paris, folks, have a great weekend. martha: have a great weekend, everybody, we'll see you next week. jon: hello and happy friday to you! i'm jon scott. jane: i'm jane skinner, "happening now", in an announcement from the white house, the president is delaying an overseas trip to stay in washington to try to get his health care overhaul pasoo passed. jon: a new jersey native once worked at a power plant in the u.s. his casing off alarm bells about security. jane: -- jane: in the bottom locks, hundreds die in a vicious mexico drug war.
shocking testimony from our homeland security department about how the bad guys are getting inside the agency news job it is to protect us and our border. take a look at our newsroom, this is where we're working on so many stories, breaking news and developments, we'll bring them straight to you as we get them. jon one of those stories right now. house speaker nancy pelosi set to speak to reporters as the white house announces president obama will delay an overseas trip to try to work on health care. he set his march 18th departure date as a deadline for the house to vote on the latest version of his plan, now he's giving the democrat -- democratic leadership three days to wrangle up the 216 votes needed to pass hel care. cam cameron awaits the speaker, we have seen a bunch of these health care deadlines come and go. can they make this one? >> >> reporter: it's going to be difficult and require a tremendous amount of work. there's a scramble in the democratic caucus as there has been in stages of the
last year, now it has begun to mean something and you can feel in the air the arm twisting and the prern felt from the democratic leadership and the white house. the decision to postpone the overseas trip raises the stakes for an awful lot ofand many are confronted now with the possibility of having to vote for a bill they don't like, with a process that is a 2-step one that requires them to trust their leadership and fix their objections or address their concerns only after they've cast their first votes for health care next week, or in ten days. essentially, it means that the senate will be -- the senate bill would have to be passed by the house and sent to the president to be sign into law, then after that process, a second bill, the reconciliation package, would then have to pass the senate and then the house and be september to the president and that would only require 51 votes for passage. house, then senate. it would only take 51 votes in the senate for reconciliation. that's what republicans have been objecting to, some have referred to it as the nuclear option, settatera,
and it would require house democrats who have concerns over the abortion language or the cost of the package to vote for it in the first instance and hope the issues will be addressed in the second package. >> so those members of congress in the house you just talked becoming the prolife democrats, the fiscal conservatives, who don't like the cost of this bill, where does this lead them? >> reporter: well, the number has been hanging -- the magic number is 216, democrats need 216 votes in order to pass t there are at least six prolife democrats who have officially said that without a change in the senate's version of the abortion language, to prohibit taxpayer dollars from funding abortion-related revenueses -- services, they'll vote against it. there are a whole host, perhaps as many as another ten, who say they're undecided, they voted for the bill in the house with a ban on taxpayer-funded abortions, they're asked to vote on the senate bill that has no such ban and some have threatened to change the votes to no, others are undecided and for that they risk tremendous pain at the
ballot locks this election year, particularly in the heartland of the country where the catholic bishops and right to life committee have been working hard on this bill because of the lack of a ban on taxpayer-funded abortion services. there is reelection at stake in this vote and these prolife democrats are forced to trust their boss that in the second stage there might be a fix to t that could run into complicated parliamentary rules, jon, because abortion in the minds of most legislative experts doesn't fit in a reconciliation package which is supposed to be restricted to budget-related items. jon: we can practically feel the arms being twisted in new york. carl cameron, thank you. >> you bet. jane: we have developing news to get to out of pakistan where a pair of homicide bombers in lahore have killed at least 54 people, they were targeting army vehicles. this is the fourth major attack. about ten killed were soldiers. here's video shot from a
mobile phone after the first explosion. you can see the orange flames suddenly erupting in the streets as the second bomb goes off. this latest vie comes amid signs of a crackdown on affan taliban and al-qaeda members operating in pakistan. jon: pakistan has announced it suck very test fired missiles and tore he'does in the arabian sea. take a look at this video, it shows a ship firing a missile, followed by shots of another ship being struck and burning. the tests included ship to surface missiles, air to surface missiles, and missiles from submarines. jane: we're getting new details of an alleged american al-qaeda mesh from -- member from new jersey being held in yemen, sra -- sharif mobley, suspected of being in the same branch of al-qaeda that led to the failed bombing attempt in detroit on christmas day. steve cen tani has been tracking the details this morning. steve, i understand this is
pretty frightening, but he worked at several nuclear power plants in the united states. what did he do? >> reporter: he worked for contractors at three different nuclear power plants in new jersey. that was from 2002-2008. and each time he applied for work and got t. he passed a background check, all the way through. a spokesman for these plants said mobley carried supplies and did maintenance work. a spokesman for new jersey chris crist, he said mobley was also supervised, caused no problems on the job and did not breach security at the plants, but of course this fit the pattern already causing serious concern among counterterrorism officials, the american who becomes radicalized and joins a terrorist movement overseas. jane: exactly. what are people who know him saying about him? >> reporter: well, they were aware that mobley had strong religious views, even in high school, often trying to convert friends to islam, and becoming increasingly radical, especially after graduation in 2002. one friend who served in the army in iraq says mobley
told him, get the hell away from me, you muslim killer. but many others simply say they were shocked to hear of the allegations. here's one such answer. >> okay, the person saying that he -- >> jane: sounds like we don't have that, steve. do you know what was in that sound bite? >> yeah,is just going to say a neighbor, a friend, saying that he kept to himself, that mobley liked karate, animals, didn't seem like the kind of person who would do this. mobley's mother says the allegations are false, her son with a good muslim, an excellent person who's never been in trouble, jane. jane: steve centanni, he'll bring us more as soon as he gets it from d.c. thanks. jon: there is more disturbing information right now about convicted sex offender john albert gardner, he's charged with murdering a southern california teenager and is under investigation in the investigation of another girl. now we learn gardner violated conditions of his
parole at least half a dozen times, but still was allowed to remain free. gardner could have gone back to prison in 2007 when he violated parole by moving too close to a school and records show even more violation, including one just 18 days before gardner was released from parole supervision. he's under investigation now in the death of 14-year-old amber dubois who disappeared in early 2009. her remains were found saturday. he is charged with murder in the death of 17-year-old chelsea king. we will have a full report from california in the next hour. jane: four people were killed, strangely enough, in separate train accidents in the northeast, an amtrak train struck and killed a person walking along the tracks in new jersey, saying the ville was trespassing. nobody aboard the train was hurt. in new york city a 48-year-old woman was killed by a subway train after she jumped right on the tracks because she had dropped her gym bag and tried to retrieve it.
police are investigating at least two other incidents later in the day, one involving a man hit by a new jersey commuter train, the other a possible suicide in the city of philadelphia. jon: consumers were out shopping up a storm in february, despite all of that snow that hit the northeast. the commerce department says retail sales rose .3% in february. that's far better than expected. analysts were forecasting a slight drop. fox business network's jenna lee is with us. so where did jane spend all of her money? >> reporter: >> jane wait a minute, wait a minute! this is actually something near and dear to your heart, jon. jon: really? >> reporter: yes, careful! bars and restaurant sales saw their biggest gain in two years and we think this big guy over here might have something to do with it, but yes, that's where we saw sales, bars and restaurants but -- but we were shopping across the board, hardware, electronics, department
stores. electronics are in sale in february but right here, at the bars and restaurants, there's a lot of reasons for us to get out, including the bad weather and you had well two holidays in february, the super bowl falling on a sunday and valentine's day on a sunday and when a holiday is on a sunday you get the most impact in retail because you have the whole holiday to celebrate. so that's how they helped out those sales quite a bit. again, jon, biggest sales in two sales. auto sales didn't do as well, this storm is affecting all of that. jon: hardware, i'm all over that. jane: hardware, electronics and beer. you cannot blame us for that. jon i need a flat screen! jenna lee, thanks. jane: coming up, keep the umbrella handy, j.d. is heading for us with the forecast, and you may say a spring soaker is on the way. warnings are popping up, janice is on t that is why she's the weather girl and i am not, because i cannot handle the details. the system got its start in the south. here are pictures, strong weather was rolling through parts of florida, a damaging
line of storms packing heavy rains and intense winds, moving through several different counties. you can see that homes were torn apart, furniture was thrown around, j.d. will be up, she'll have all you need to know, three to 5 inches expected, flood advisories out there. we'll see her in a moment. jon: that's a lot of green. there is new word the united states might be planning a new offensive against al-qaeda, but we're not talking afghanistan or iraq. we'll tell you where that is in the works. also, about the growing threat to the united states, and a tremendous fireball, intense orange flames, shooting high into the sky. we'll tell you what caused this, coming up.
outside a metall ca conference in colombia, cops with tear gas and water canons scattered the crowd, 30,000 ticketholders showed up for the concert but hundreds more tried to crash it. several officers were jud, about 100 arrested. in the bottom box, senate majority leader harry reid's wife in serious condition after a car accident, landra reid said to have a broken back, neck and knows, senator reid's daughter lana suffered less serious injury necessary that crash. cops say the regard was rear-ended by a semi on a highway outside d.c. jane: right now authorities are investigating the cause of a huge blast in oklahoma. take a look at this, a massive fire ball in chandler, which is northeast of oklahoma city, a gas line erupted into flames, just south of a highway there. the fire and smoke could be seen for miles. thankfully the ruptured happened in a remote area, nobody had to be evacuated, nobody was hurt. calm winds kept the fire
from spreading very far but the explosion did blow a large hole in the ground. want to get now to new threats against this country as the united states considers a new offensive against al-qaeda and the possible target is in somalia, the terror group is issuing a dire warning for american soldiers, a spokesman saying if americans come to somalia, the same group who fought them in 1993, dragging bodies through the streets of mogadishu is ready to drag their bodies again. let's get to catherine herridge, national correspondent following the developments from the state department. what do we know about the threats? >> reporter: thank you jane. for context, al-shabab translates as mujahadeen, and they are seen as the threat against the united states. as we've been reporting on fox they've been actively recruiting citizens of somali de scebt to go to training camps in somalia to try and battle against the secular government there and the most significant development in the last week is that its spokeman for the group al-shabab has said if
the u.s. decides to back any attacks against the islamists there, in effect, take it on, bring it on, we're ready to take the battle to the streets with you. so the statement shows that the group is exceedingly confident in its position in somalia, that it would make a statement such as this. jane: catherine, is there a connection between this group we're talking about and the al-qaeda affiliate that was behind that attempted bombing on christmas day out of detroit? >> well, significantly, right after the attempted bombing on christmas day, this group in somalia sort of pledged its support or its allegiance to the al-qaeda affiliate in yemen, which we believe was behind the attempted bombing, and that's significant, because in both cases, they are actively recruiting westerners, in many cases american citizens, who have very clean passports and clean records and are able to fly under the radar. and the case, once again, of what appears to be home-grown terrorism this week of the young man from new jersey, mobley, he was
picked up, based on my contacts, in yemen, he was picked up in an al-qaeda safe house in the capitol, there was an incident in the hospital, a shooting incident, he tried to escape, and now he's in yemeni customer der. but once again, you're finding american citizens in the horn of africa and also in yemen, and many counterterrorism experts say this has become in many respects sort of the new afghanistan in terms of recruitment and also in terms of training westerners for operations in that iran and the concern that they will take those operations outside of the region to the united states. already we've seen that in western europe. jane: catherine herridge in the state department for us, catherine, thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. jon: it's not iraq, it's not afghanistan, but there is a bloody war raging right on the borders of this country. in just the first two months of this year, more than 1600 people were killed in drug violence in mexico, more than 16,000 since 2006.
now we're going -- now drug cartel members are infiltrating our border agency, working undercover alongside u.s. agents. we'll talk with a former customs official who witnessed it firsthand. jane: jon, we've been waiting for house speaker nancy pelosi to address the media in the weekly news conference, see if she says anything about health care and the tile line for it. let's take a listen. >> the cbo did come out with a report yesterday on the senate bill. mind you, the senate bill passed christmas eve, but it -- and there was a cbo score going into the vote, but this addressed as amended, and what was positive about it is it showed over $100 billion in savings for the first ten years of the bill, and a trillion dollars over the second ten years. that is exactly what we -- or better, what we hope to do with the reconciliation bill, to sustain those numbers. so the fact that we've
started at a good place for us is very positive. of course, we're eagerly awaiting the final word from them. and when we do, we will be able to send a bill to the budget committee, the budget committee will pass that out, we'll go to the internet with that, and discuss the specifics of the legislation with the members, and we'll take whatever time is required for us to pass the legislation. again, i feel very exhilarated by the caucus that we had this morning in terms of the questions that members have. we spent a good deal of time on the substance, but then some on the process, as well and we stand ready to stay as long as it takes to pass the bill. i think members are eager to pass the bill, and again, it won't be long before we'll be reag a real difference in
lives of american people. so in terms of the house, again, as i said, the cbo, the substance, in terms of what the agreement is between the house and the senate, and what the senate tells us they are prepared to act upon, and then the action of the house. i'm delighted that the president will be here for the passage of the bill, it's going to be historic, and it would not be possible without his tremendous, tremendous leadership, his persistence, his concern for the american people. always, always guided by his statement that we will make success by the progress they made by america's working families. this legislation not only makes history but it will make progress for america's working families. any questions? >> madam speaker, you say by march 21st, you will pass the bill? >> i think it -- i said we will take the time to we need to pass the legislation. >> you said you're hoping -- >> i'm hoping it will be in
that time frame. our clock can't start ticking until we get the cbo score. but that increasings the prospect that we will be here. he will be here three more days. >> do you think it will be easier to get votes for health care by aattaching the student loan to the reconciliation? >> thank you for that question. right from the start, our budget instruction was about two bills that would o'clock reconciled, one -- that would be reconciled, one was health care and one was education. if i may step back for a moment, this goes back to our budget bill that we passed in the house, 100 days after the president's inauguration, so calculate that, in the spring of last year. in that bill, the president had a blueprint in the budget for lowering taxes, reducing the decifit, creating jobs, stabilizing our economy well into the future, around three pillars. those three pillars were investments in education and innovation, which go together, investments in n. and climate change, and
investments, first among equals, in health care. we have passed all three of those bills. two of them, the education bill and the health bill, were to be part of the reconciliation, so the budget bill we passed in the spring, the budget instruction, we received in the fall, was about the reconciliation would deal with those, reconciliation of education would bring us more savings and, of course, cost the taxpayers less and the students less for their student loans. so that has always been part of the plan. there was some question as to whether this would prevail in the senate until the senate parliamentarian yesterday morning -- >> jane: house speaker nancy pelosi there addressing the timeline for a possible vote on the health care overhaul reform package. she said we're going to take whatever time we need to pass t. and then they said she's been exhilarated by
meetings that they have had with fellow democrats this morning. she said she's delighted that the president is going to be here. that was the big announcement from the white house this morning, that the president is delaying an overseas trip. he was scheduled to leave on the 18th next thursday, he is now delaying that by at least three days to see if they can get something done. jon? >> jon: mexican drug cartels infiltrating the american border patrol agencies. homeland security officials testifying before a senate panel yesterday, saying only about 10 percent of new hires are given polygraph tests, 60 percent of those who take the tests fail. that means that many agents who were not given polygraphs may be working for the drug smugglers, not the united states. this as the blood bath gets worse on our southern border. in january and february of this year, about 1600 people were killed by mexican drug gangs, the narcotics market in mexico, worth an estimated $800 million a year. more than 16,000 people have
been killed in mexico from drug-related violence since 2006, including four visiting u.s. citizens, murdered at the end of last year and the beginning of this year. now, questions are swirling around a border town in texas, a mexican military chopper seen hovering over homes in brownsville as cartels continue threatening security. let's talk about it with ralph basham, former commissioner of u.s. border customs and protection. this problem first of all of corruption within the ranks of those who are supposed to handle the problem, patrol the borders, check for drugs and so forth, you've seen that yourself? >> well, actually, i think what we have to recognize here is that this is not new information. we have been aware that we have this problem, and it's not unusual for law enforcement agencies to be approached and attempted to be infiltrated by criminal elements.
but i'd like to point out that two years ago, they were doing no polygraph examinations, versus now. when i arrived there, i clearly felt that we needed to do more, and i discussed it with the secretary, secretary chertoff and secretary napal ton --o napolitano, we need to build a robust internal affairs office, and i recognized we needed to start administering polygraph examinations. so we're doing a lot more today than we were before. but you also have to recognize there's a full field background investigation done on these victims. do we need to do more, absolutely, do we need to get more resources, do we need to expand the authorities of the cdps and agents, yes, we do. but we recognize that we have this problem, we have this issue, and we're working on it. jon: the 1600 people who have died just in the -- well, roughly, what, two months of this year, 2 1/2
months of this year, in drug violence in mexico, i mean, that's nearly twice the number of u.s. soldiers who died in afghanistan in eight years of fighting. that is an absolutely tremendous number, and a really costly conflict. >> well, it is. and i think what you're seeing here is that the pressure that the mexicoan government is putting on the cartels and the law enforcement efforts that the united states is putting on the southern border is really what is driving these attempts by the cartels to find new ways of getting their drugs into the country. one of those ways is to approach our personnel and try to get them to be involved in some of the trafficking of those drugs. so that's part of the problem, is more pressure that's applied, the more they're going to attempt to use our personnel to get the drugs in. so that's why we have to
continue to build and grow these resources in concert with our partners, in dea, ice, and the fbi, and to put more pressure on those cartels there. and it's going to result, i believe, in additional violence. jon: i hope you're right, former commissioner of u.s. customs and borders, rather basham, thank you. jane he said he was king jung-il's personal shopper, ordered to import luxuries like cognac and gold plates while many of his people go hungry every day. you're going to meet the man who defected in disgust. republicans seem to have a new strategy, warning a new audience what they believe will be the effects of health care reform. will the strategy work?
jane: we have more severe weather to talk tbhrks time in florida where a tornado severely damaged homes in polk cowvment take a look at this, there were downed tree limbs, debris scattered all over the neighborhood. national weather service is going to be out there today, taking a look at that damage. that's expected today? janice dean has the details. >> reporter: look at the rain totals out of florida. of course, more reports of tornadoes across the sunshine state. as you mentioned the national weather service is out to investigate that. but incredible amounts of rairntion 7 1/2 inches almost for west palm beach, over 6 inches for crystal river, close to 6 inches for
cape coral. so the rain continues again today. this is the radar over the last six hours. florida just getting inundated with heavy rain. this is the same system that is going to visit us here in the mid atlantic and northeast. also can see the risk for severe weather across the southeast, some of the thunderstorms and showers popping up, hail damage, maybe an isolated tornado across the ohio river valley and the potential for heavy rain and across the mid atlantic and northeast, where we could see really incredible amounts of rain over the next 1-3 days, anywhere from 3-5 inches, that could be conservative amounts, in excess of 5 inches for in localized areas. so that is going to prompt flash flood watches and warnings and jane, we've also got the snow melt, so this is going to be an incredible situation into the weekend. we'll watch for it and bring you the latest. jane: i know you will, thanks. jon? >> jon: president obama is giving democratic leaders
more time to pass his health care plan. he's now postponing his overseas trip, which he had set as the deadline to vote on the bill. amounts ago speaker of the house nancy pelosi discussed the timeline. >> we stand ready to stay as long as it takes to pass the bill. i think members are eager to pass the bill, and again, it won't be long before it will be making it real difference in lives of the american people. jon: republicans are warning democrats, though, that a win now on health care could mean a huge loss in november. are they right? let's bring in joe trippe, a former howard dean campaign manager and fox news contributor. rick tyler is founding director of renewing american leadership and a spokesman for newt gingrich. joe, you have heard the warnings from republican leaders, they're saying if our colleagues in the house vote for this thing from the democratic side of the aisle, they are going to be annihilated come november. what do you think of that warning, joe?
>> i think it's a very tough year for democrats in november. it's not just about health care, it's about being -- having the presidency in both houses with the economy being the way it is, and that's going to have more to do with what happens in november than this health care vote. jon: but i do think the pressure is on, and i think there are a lot of democratic members right now, they're looking at this bill, and not -- and it is up for grabs. i'm not sure that there are members that are not -- that they can be shaken off the tree and moved into a no vote and the bill stopped. i think a lot of the republican efforts could work in that regard. jon: rick, take us behind the scenes, isn't there more cam radie on capitol hill than we see publicly, more -- i mean, no one knows the stresses of running for reelection better than a fellow member of congress, so a lot of democrats are closer to republicans behind the scenes than we see. i mean, might this thing work, republican advice given to democrats? >> i think this health care
bill is the longest suicide note in world history. i think it's the opposite of what republicans are saying. if the democrats succeed in passing this bill they'll lose 30-40 seats, they'll probably maintain the majority in the house and senate. if they do not pass this bill they will have a cat cataclasmic election and lose 40-50 of the seats and definitely lose the majority in both the house and senate, and the reason is they'll lose their base. if they lose their base, which is the only people that are going to support the democrats coming this fall unless something different happens, they are going to lose the majority. that's why you see all these maneuverings to get health care passed because they know, pelosi is putting party over politics and looking at the blue dogs and saying i need you on this vote but the blue dogs who live in districts who voted for mccain and for bush know that they vote for this, they are going to lose their seat, but they might preserve the party. so nancy pelosi is asking people to put their politics, party and power and pelosi above the people in these districts, so the
democrats -- >> jon: well, joe, if this health care bill is such a great thing, why are democrats now talking about packaging it with expanding aid for college students and throwing that all into one thing? why not just let health care stand on die on its own? >> because they need the votes. and they hey be able to get votes by -- they may be able to get the votes by including education. to say this is party over country is crazy. there's no political case for doing this, which the republican -- >> it's the -- >> that's not true, how is that the case if you're going to lose seats in november to pass this thing? >> they're going to lose them anyway. it's the question whether they're going to lose enough seats to lose majority or keep the majority. that's the question. >> it's not the question. the question is are we going to do what's right and pelosi and the administration believe that this is the right course, then putting the party at
risk -- >> people don't think so. in fact in new jersey, 20 percent of the people, only 22 percent supported it, the rest of the people are against it. jon: that's why the arguing goes on. >> now you're arguing it backwards. jon: the arguing goes on in washington, just like it is two you two. joe trippe, thank you very much. rick, thank you very much. jane: north korean dick taiors like to live large, even when their people are starveg and for the first time the personal former shopper for king jung-il is revealing how they imported anything they wanted, despite strict trade embargoes. this is quite a story. greg palkot brings it to us, he's live in london. >> reporter: his name is kim jong ryul, a north korean, he was fluent in german, knowledgable about the west and for about 20 years, he was pyong yang's go-to man in europe, he cited the obsession with
cars, mercedes but they liked american, too, lincolns, carpets, funnishings for the villas and food, food, and more food. take a listen. >> the simple people didn't have enough to eat, they didn't have rice, they were dying, the leaders wanted food to be bought for themselves from all over the world. >> reporter: and always, there was money for weaponry. kim told me he got businessmen to go along with him to get around the embargos and bans by first paying cash, second, top dollar, third, and then some, about 30 percent more. why is he going public now? let's step back a little bit. he was unhappy with north korean policies by about the mid 19 on -- 1990s, he faked his death in austria, went into hiding, and after 15 years after the age of 75, he figures he'd better speak out. and speak out indeed he is. he says that the leader, kim jung-il, currently is a, quote, human with a mind of a devil. he claims north korea's nuclear program is nothing
more than saber rattling propaganda and his message to the u.s., very direct, topple this regime, it's not going to go away without you doing that. considering, jane, what north korea does to dissidents and it's a pretty ugly history, he is clearly putting himself and his family who remain in north korea in dire jeopardy. he doesn't seem to mind, he wants to get his message out. remarkable story. jane: greg, thank you very much. jon: how do you feel about this, an application for cell phones, specifically designed to help illegals sneak across the u.s. borders? and your tax dollars, helping to pay for it? back with more on that in three minutes.
you'll see how many people the america for sheriff's department were saying were in this one house, dozens of them, more than three dozen to be exact, they put them on the curb. this is new video coming into fox news channel. we've been watching this for the past few minutes. this s. w. a.t. team moved in in camouflage. it looked like they had heavy helmets on, they were definitely prepared for some sort of pushback but it's a quiet scene, a lot of media that set up a perimeter around this house. a big deal, some 37 illegal immigrants inside this drop house, according to the merico county sheriff's office in phoenix. i'll keep my eye on it to see if there is any other news. jon: thank you. jane: lashing out the creators of a cps cell phone application that is specifically designed to help illegal aliens sneak across the border in the u.s., they used tax dollars to create the program, it's called the transborder immigrant tool developed by faculty members at the
university of california-san diego and the university of michigan. this app helped illegals find water and key landmarks, it also alerts them to border control checkpoints and in addition they offer poetry and pretty pictures to enhance the journey. stephen camerata is with the immigration studies, franciso hernandez, they describe themselves as a combination of activists and artists and call this border disturbance art and they're trying to make a statement here, they're very clear about that. is this the proper use of taxpayer dollars? >> well, i think what they're trying to do is provide at least some way for the folks that are trying to come across on their own, not to die out in the desert during a 10-day walkful ear not talking about smuggler, they have gps systems and airplanes and cars. we're not talking about that. we're not talking about using tax dollars to give this application or the illegal -- or undocumented
immigrants cell phones. we don't seem to have a problem with using federal dollars to study the effects of marijuana smoking or cocaine use. in fact, u.s. government subsidizes growing marijuana for those studies. nobody seems to be complaining about that. that's much worse. jane: i should point out the creators of this program say they envision using some of their money, whether it's part tax dollars or created on their -- on their own or by state university, to give it to people who want to cross the border. steven, i have to ask you, too, is that legal? >> there's a fine line here. whether they'd ever be prosecuted is one thing. but yeah, if you go to the border and help somebody over the fence or if you wait with your car and then take them off into the united states, that's clearly illegal, and this may be illegal. again, they might not be prosecuted but it's certainly facilitating the violation of u.s. laws in an important way. jane: one of the professors had this to say, he said it's not illegal to tell
somebody where to find water. is it moral or ethical to turn the other way as people are dying. border officials have also said what we don't want this to do is encourage more people to try to do this because it is so dangerous and their latest staff shows that 400 people were so died last year doing this. francisco, isn't that a concern? >> well, it is a concern. and you know, really, all this is caused by the failure of congress to act, both sides of the parties, republicans and democrats, to figure out a system where some folks can apply to come here legally. these folks do it out of desperation, to support their families and to feed their families, so it is a way of trying to save lives. quite frankly, there's nothing illegal with just posting it on the iphone application programs and giving it away for free. we're not talking about helping people come across, we're talking about people coming across anyway to keep them from dying and that's humane, there's nothing wrong with that. >> steven, do you agree with that? >> of course not. look, the way this application makes sense is
for people who don't see the united states and its borders and its laws as legitimate. if you don't see them as legitimate, it makes sense to do everything you can to undermine it and it even adds injuries to insult, to use taxpayer dollars. look, this thing might make people more dangerous. what if a person relies on this and they get there and the water is not there and they didn't carry their own? it seems it's not even on its own terms a good idea and again, it just sends another message that america is not serious about its laws, if we just let this go on with taxpayer dollars. jane: we want to let our viewers know we did let our creators come on and they said we prefer not to be interviewed by tox news. ure aesthetic diverges so much we question the dialogue in exchange with you. i couldn't agree with that more. thanks to francisco and steven. we'll follow it. jon i don't know this is word that tiger woods is preparing for his comeback to pro golf, a giant media
jane: the game of gorvelings a lot of people are awaiting the return of tiger woods. i don't have to tell you that. there are new reports out today and some on flict -- conflicting reports that tiger could return to the links next month, playing in the master's in agusta, the golf great has been seen practicing close to his home in florida. he hasn't been on the circuit since late last year of course when the scandal broke involving multiple affairs and he's been on hiatus. david dusek is member of the sports illustrated golf group. david, there are conflicting reports out today, some had said we might see him actually in two weeks at what's known as the arnold palmer in orlando.
there are other reports he's going to wait and make a big bang at augusta. what are your thoughts, what are you hearing? >> he's going to make a big bang, regardless of what tournament it turns out to be. it will be an enormous happening, it will get super bowl type ratings. it's been reported the -- reported the arnold palmer invitational, it was originally thought that would be the combark, mou it's more likely the masters if the reporting is accurate. the only person who knows what's going to go down is tiger woods and he hasn't been talking. jane: does it make sense? talk about pressure but that is the place he loves. >> here are a couple of things. he's won there four times, he knows the course really well, the security will be bar none the best of any golf tournament. i got the media credentials to attend the masters two days a. they're closed. the different media outlets will not be allowed inside the grounds. >> it wouldn't be like the people magazines or tmz.
>> he will be protected there. the fans, you have to call thempate rans, they will be the most respectful fans he's going to see all year. it's as easy a transition he's going to get. jane: he loves augusta and hasn't won there in a while. >> but there are no major changes to the golf course. if he's been practicing and as seen with his coach, he can play the golf course in his mind on the golf range. >> if you're a guy like tiger woods, this is what he does and who he is. is that the best way to move beyond this scandal is to get back to doing what he does? >> the best way to move beyond the scandal is to sit down with his wife and whatever therapist they've been talking to and get to whatever place they're able to get to. if they're able to save the marriage, that's great. if they're not -- if you're a fan of golf and the game of golf, you want them to reach whatever resolution they're going to get to. the fact that he's practicing, there are reports now that are being leaked out here and there that he's eyeing a comeback at some point. that makes you feel like he's going to come back
sooner rather than later but he needs to get the home front done first, that's the most important thing. jane: but the key is to get the media to talk about his winning, not the private life. >> when he starts to win, then we can get past the whole charades and the whole tabloid part of the story and it becomes a sports story and that's when he gets control of it. jane: last question, ari fletcher. there are reports he's now advising him on a comeback, is that true? >> that has been the report. again, nothing official from tiger and certainly from flvment fliesher. it would make sense a person who's going to go into a hornet's nest of media attention has experience handling crisis management in the media. jane: and david, it's been good to see you, thank you. jon: a very sad story out of alaska, a special education teacher found dead along a running trail. police say she may have been killed by a pack of hungry
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jane: hi, everybody, top of the hour, i'm jane skinner. jon: and i'm jon scott. "happening now," senate majority leader harry reid's wife now in serious condition after a car accident, hospitalized with a broken back, neck and nose, his daughter released from a va hospital. she has a neck injury. their mini van rear ended by a semi outside d.c. jane: in the middle box, brand new details on john albert gardner, the one charged with murdering a southern california teenager under investigation for the death of another girl. we've now learned he has at least a half dozen parole violations but was still allowed
to remain free. jon: in the bottom box, a hearing for the boy accused of gunning down his father's pregnant fiancee. they're trying to figure out whether he should be tried as an adult. jane: want to get to developing news on health care at this hour, just a few minutes ago the speaker of the house, nancy pelosi, was talking to reporters indicating she may have the votes to pass a sweeping overhaul of the season in just days. take a listen. >> we stand ready to stay as long as it takes to pass the bill. i think members are eager to pass a bill and, again, it won't be long before we'll be making a real difference in lives of the american people. jane: representative pelosi spoke after democrats met for a second closed door meeting this morning, and after the white house announced president obama is delaying a trip overseas to stay home and work on health care. molly henneberg is live for us at the white house. update us, if be you will, on all this. >> reporter: hi, jane. well, certainly this suggests
that the president believes his personal face to face persuasion, if you will, is needed next week to try to get enough democrats on board to get to a vote in the house. the president had planned to leave on his foreign trip next thursday, but house speaker nancy pelosi and senate majority leader harry reid urged them -- him to stay in town. the president has agreed to do so and this morning spokesperson robert gibbs tweeted, quote, the president will delay leaving for indonesia and australia, he will now leave sunday. the first lady and the girls will not be on the trip. he did not mention going to guam which was on the initial eye tin itinerary, also he will be back in d.c. on march 26th instead of the 24th, and also the fact that the first lady and the first daughters are not going indicates that the white house wants to make sure everybody knows it's a 100% business trip
and not all a family vacation, especially with all the battles over health care. the signature part of the president's domestic agenda going on back here at home. jane: molly, so what is the new deadline for passage of this thing? >> reporter: well, democratic leaders have told lawmakers not to plan to go home next weekend, the weekend of march 20th and 21st, and here's what the democrats' whip, that's the chief vote counter for the majority party, says about when the house may vote on the senate's version of the bill. here's more. >> do you think it's fair to say the target is into next week sometime? >> i hope the vote is within the next ten days. >> reporter: speaker pelosi says the house will take, quote, the time we need to work on this bill, but we also hopes the bill will be, as she says m the march 21st time frame. jane: molly, thanks. ♪
jon: right now the texas board of education is set to vote on an issue that's made texas the latest battleground in the culture wars on the final day of meetings about curriculum standards. the argument boils down to what's going to be included in future textbooks. the differences in opinion have pitted liberal board members against conservative ones. brian wilson is live for us in austin, what's the latest, brian? >> reporter: jon, let me just straighten out one thing, this is not the final final vote, but it's a very important vote, and a lot of things they will vote on today very likely will end up in textbooks in texas and around the country, so it is important to watch. let me take you to last night. about 6:45 in the evening one of the liberal members of this board, mary, she got so irritated about what was going on that she stood up from the room, and she walked out. she didn't show up for the rest of the night. she went out in the hallway and complained about how there
wasn't enough minority representation in the textbooks. now let's move forward a couple of hours. it's about 8:45, 9:00 in the evening, all of the liberals save one have left the room, and the conservatives are just banging the gavel, banging the gafl, banging the gavel pushing through the things that they care about. so they ran up a pretty impressive string of victories last night, jon. jon: so what kinds of things did they pass? some examples? >> reporter: i want to see if i can give you a sense of it. these conservatives feel strongly one of the things that's missing from textbooks is a discussion about the christian underpinnings of our constitution and of our declaration of independence and how important it was to our founding fathers. so, for example, they got into the standards yesterday a phrase that will be discussed in classroom, laws of nature and of nature's god. that sounds very religious, but as a matter of fact it's from the first paragraph of the declaration of independence, so if things go forward and all the things get passed as we expect
they will, this is something that school children in texas will study. it's, they are making real progress on their agenda. jon: brian wilson for us in austin. brian, thank you. and we have full coverage of this story on air and online as well. watch breaking news videos and read continuing updates about the textbook war on foxnews.com, your other news source. you can log on and click on the texas textbook wars link at the top right-hand corner of our home page. jane: want to get to some details coming out of california at this hour. we've been learning that a convicted sex offender named john gardner, who's charged with murdering a high school honor student and is eyed in the killing of another teen actually violated his parole a half dozen times before completing his sentence. one time it was for living too close to a school, but he was allowed to remain free even time. william la jeunesse is in l.a. for us, why would he be allowed to remain free?
>> reporter: well, jane, the question being asked this morning, would two girls be alive today had the state done its job correctly and yanked john gardner's parole? seven times, according to state records, gardner violated parole. one, he missed a meeting with parole offers, two, he allegedly possessed marijuana, four times he was allowed his battery on gps to get so low, but the most serious violation involved jessica's law. in may of '06 the state found out gardner was living across the street from a high school, and yet it allowed him to stay there for the next 13 months. and by the time it came up for a parole board hearing, he had moved just a week earlier, and they allowed him to stay out on parole. so bottom line is, gibe, had the agency jacked his parole, gardner would have, one, been in jail, two, a mental hospital, or at least under supervision with
the bracelet, a te tent, clearly, at the time that amber dubois disappeared and last month when chelsea king was killed. jane: what is the state saying about what appears to be this lapse in security? >> reporter: right now the blame is directed clearly at the parole board and the executive staff, not the field agents and that's an important distinction of the california department of corrections and rehabilitation. here's why. the parole, the agents had basically recommended just before his final parole board hearing that this guy remain under supervision because, according to the field agent's words, he was, quote, a -- looking for it here, a threat to the safety of the community. and that agent supervisor agreed with the field agent. and yet when he came up for his final parole board hearing, they allowed him to go without supervision, take off the bracelet, etc., et, and that, again, was just six months
before amber dubois disappeared. jane: what a shame. william la jeunesse in l.a. thanks, william. thereby. jon: there is still a threat for severe weather over the southeast today. also flooding concerns for the mid atlantic states, even the northeast. so how long's all this going to last? janice dean is here. >> you know, i'm missing the snow. [laughter] jon: yeah. didn't think you'd say that two weeks ago, did you? [laughter] >> the rain over days is just not appealing to me. i kind of miss the snow. take a look at the flood advisories posted from the mid atlantic to up in edge land, and, yes, we could get 3-5 inches in just a matter of days, so as we go forward, it's going to be a very wet and messy weekend. we're looking at rain again for florida, across the ohio and tennessee river valley, and all these pieces are going to come oght to bring us our rain event for the northeast. but you can see the heavy rain across florida. they had four reports of tornadoes yesterday, and then
across the ohio, tennessee river valley. remember, a lot of these places still have the snow pack so with the rapid snow melt and all of that rain, yes, the threat for flooding is going to be a concern. let's take a look into sunday afternoon. man, just going to get pounded, especially across long island down through philadelphia and then as we go further out in time it just kind of lingers and hangs on even into monday for new york city. so don't shoot the messenger, just bring your umbrella with you. saturday, sunday, monday plan indoor activities, the museum, the movies, that sort of thing. #-5 inches, isolated, 6 inches not out of the question, and look at the winds, guys, as we get further out into saturday. that's 50 mile-per-hour wintsdz. so that's going to cause major delays at the airport. if the you're flying out, you have someone coming in, check ahead most definitely. and finally as we head into sunday, the winds relax, but that rain is just going to hang around, hang around.
hopefully by st. patty's day on wednesday things will be sunny. jane: that means we get to hang around the house. >> you know i'm a glass half empty. it's a snuggle-up kind of weekend. jon: i have to sit around and do my tax information. jane: oh, jon, you're usually the silver lining guy. jane: i'm rubbing off, sorry. >> we need the shovel. bring the snow back. jon: j.d., thank you. jane: a young woman out of the state of alaska was out jogging, she was attacked and killed. but the suspects are not human. what happened here? that's next. nature knows just how much water vegetables need. so, to turn those vegetables into campbell's condensed soup, we don't boil it down, our chefs just add less water from the start. ♪ so many, many reasons ♪ it's so m'm! m'm! good! ♪ a day on the days that you have arthritis pain, you could end up taking 4 times the number...
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the detour route. in the middle box, first lady michelle obama is set to visit mexico city next month. and on the wait a moment, prosecutors in orange county, california, say they'll file a suit against toyota over the ongoing acceleration problems. the da says the company, quote, endangers the public through sale of defective vehicles and deceptive business practice. jon: a hunt is on for a pack of killers that attacked this woman. 32-year-old candace berner. she's a special education teacher in alaska. police say her killers apparently not human. her body was found severely mauled, and all indications are that animals did it. police say candace's body was found near a lagoon surrounded by wolf tracks. if a pack of wolveses killed her, it would be the first deadly wolf attack on a human in the united states in more than 50 years. joining us now on the phone from
anchorage, alaska, megan peters, a spokeswoman for the alaska state troopers. it's your state troopers who investigated her death, right, megan? >> that's correct. we got a call letting us know a body had been located outside one of the villages. certainly, our big curve was we -- concern was we needed to make sure there was nothing criminal with the death, so we had to treat it just like every other death investigation just to make sure we could rule out everything else, and then an autopsy finally did confirm for us what was the cause of death and that was the only damage to the body. and so we deemed it an animal attack. jon: this wasn't a case where she was taken down by a stalker, a human, a rapist, something like that, and then wolves got to the body, the wolves actually killed her? >> yeah, that was the concern. certainly, like you said, there's no documentation of an actual wolf kill in north
america, certainly none that we're aware of. we've had wolf bites, we've had incidents, but not actually killed somebody. and we haven't definitively determined it to be wolves, but it is the most likely suspect after talking to the community and talking with biologists. the wolf activity in the area has really made people in the community leery over the past couple weeks, and certainly by all accounts that we can find, wolves are the responsible animal. but it's going to be the biologists with the alaska department of push and game that's going to have to go out and definitively say, yes, the only animal that could have done this was wolves. >> she was a slightly built woman, but 4-11. when you take a look at the statistics about your basic alaskan wolf, males weigh up to 115 pounds and generally, as you know, they hunt in packs. she would have been no match for a wolf that was bent, well, i guess was hungry as appalling as
that might sound to say, huh? >> you know, i don't think it matters what size anybody is. if there's a pack of wolves that wants to wring you down, i mean, good luck to you. i don't think anyone would have stood a chance against it if you're by yourself, you're unarmed, you're completely ill experienced with dealing with wild animals, i don't know what ms. berner's experience was, but it doesn't sound like it was a fair fight at all. jon: i know alaskans often carry guns into the back country, but wolveses -- >> those are high-powered rifles. you don't go running with a high-powered rifle. jon: yeah, that's for sure. what happens to the wolf pack now? it's my understanding that the state is dispatching hunters to try and find them to kill them? >> well, there's a couple of things that could potentially occur. since we know the death is noncriminal in nature, the alaska state troopers' investigation stops. we know the cause of death, it's noncriminal, there's nothing more that we can do on the
enforcement aspect. however, we are supporting the actions of the department of fish and game. we've sent a trooper helicopter as well as a trooper pilot autoto assist in the efforts of the department of fish and game. they're going to be looking at the activity of the wolves, and i believe they're going to be doing what's called offender control. this isn't predator control where you just go out and get the numbers for another animal population, this is offender control. we have a pack of wolves that is believed to be intimidating humans, and now certainly we have somebody that is dead as a result of -- jon: and you've got to look for that specific pack. we need to take actions to protect the community. jon: megan peters is with the alaska state troopers, and our condolences to candace berner's family. a terrible, terrible tragedy and a shock for them. thank you. jane: just 11 years old, a quarterback on his peewee football team when he was
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jon: a fox news alert and some strange goings on right now in the pioneer square district, downtown seattle. we understand the courthouse have been surrounded by s.w.a.t. officers, they've apprehended a man who is said to have some type of device on his body, and he taped something to his hand. whether this is some kind of an explosive or just a nut case, we do not know, but officers are taking it seriously enough that they have surrounded the kick county courthouse -- king county
courthouse. apparently, he's been threatening people in that area and appears to have some kind of device taped to his body. whether it's an explosive device or just a dummy, we don't yet know. we'll let you know what happens. jane: we're also watching a hearing to determine if a 12-year-old boy charged with killing his father's pregnant fee yang see will be tried as an adult. jordan brown who was then just 11 shot the woman in the back of the head. she was almost nine months pregnant. if this little boy is tried as an adult and convicted of first degree murder, he would become the youngest person in this country to serve a mandatory life sentence in prison without parole. let's get to attorney sharon and former prosecutor jason friedman as well. by all accounts this kid had no previous problems, he was a good kid, a good student, and a lot of people have said his brain isn't even developed to understand what was going on at 11. >> no question.
it's a very tough issue as to where to draw the line between charging somebody as an adult and charging somebody as a juvenile, and states do vary about where to draw that line. but clearly, the legislator in the state of pennsylvania has drawn that line at 10 years old and, therefore, there's a presumption if you're 10 years old or older and charged with murder, you'll be treated as an adult unless there is good charge shown to be charged as a juvenile. let's keep in mind here that this was an admittedly good student, doesn't seem to have any emotional issues, doesn't seem to have any other capacity issues, and there's no reason especially with such a heinous crime why the law shouldn't be enforced. jane: shane, i know it's tough to look at the picture of this little boy's face. they say this woman was lying in bed, and authorities say he did it because he was jealous that his father was having a baby, about to have a boy with this woman. >> well, that may be true. i don't know why he shot her, but the point is a law like that
is unjust. and an unjust law is no law at all. socrates. the difference between a juvenile brain and an adult brain has been studied prolifically, and there is definitely a difference. there's a difference in the level of understanding, impulse controls, judgment. that's why there are different laws for voting, for driving. you can do some things, you can't do ores at a -- others at a certain age payoff the development. that's what the juvenile -- >> where do you draw the line? there just because it's a homicide, does that somehow mean the kid isn't still subject to the same infirmities of the juvenile brain? >> where do you draw the line? 11? 12? 13? >> is the issue the crime or is the issue the state of mind of the person? you're talking about a juvenile who doesn't even, who barely stopped believing in santa claus. do you think he's really in a position that he can truly
comprehend what he did, he can even comprehend the sentence he's facing? >> he certainly comprehends right from wrong. >> if it was a robbery, you wouldn't have a problem, would you, with it staying in juvenile court. >> but the legislature has drawn the line -- >> i don't care what the legislature says. it's a good law or a bad law. let's talk about common sense and morality here. >> this kid clearly knows right from i don't think, it's a particularly heinous crime. >> a kid who robbed a bank was charged in jewell court, would that be a problem for you? >> it doesn't rise to the level of murder though. we're talking about a murder. >> what about rape? would that be a problem for you if the kid was charged in juvenile court versus -- >> that's a completely different issue. we're talking about murder, and i have no problem charging the kid with murder. >> you tell me, you tell me how the crime of murder versus rape versus armed robbery somehow changes the culpability of an 11-year-old who commits that crime? i mean, did something go off in the brain?
oh, my, okay, it's a homicide, so, therefore, i am thinking like an adult, and i know what the consequences are going to be, i know i should or shouldn't do this, but if i'm just going to rape somebody, i don't know what the -- jane: i do want to ask one last question. the father spoke to "good morning america," and this was what he had to say when he was asked if jordan understood the hag any tuesday, and the father said, quote, he seems to understand it, but he doesn't appreciate the magnitude of it, he's simply too young. last question to you, jason, does the court take that into account, the father's feelings? >> it has to go with the mental faculties, the state of mind of this person. if you can show something, diminished capacity, other times of, you know, he's not a special ed student, some other factor, then the judge will find he should be charged as a juvenile. jane: we got some information from the court, that hearing has wrapped up, and a psychiatrist who testified for the prosecution said he finds that
this young boy is a juvenile with significant personality problems who tends to minimize, deny and shift blame. so we'll continue to follow it. thanks. >> hopefully, justice will revail. jon: straight ahead, we're going to take you to seattle and get more information on the fact that the s.w.a.t. team apparently has surrounded the king county courthouse and apprehended a guy who was acting strangely, threatening people, may have a device taped to his body. whether that device is a real explosive or not, that's the question of the hour. in (pouring rain)
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jon: bottom of the hour, here's what's "happening now." brand new information on the stories fox is following for you. hamas is banning men from working in women's hair salons in its latest step to impose strict islamic customs in gaza. more on that from jerusalem. >> reporter: that's right, jon, male hairstylists are now under threat, a new rule has been issued. hamas say that any man who cuts women's hair could face legal repercussions. according to tradition, women are not allowed to show their hair to men who aren't related, but male hairstylists in the gaza strip weren't a problem until now. jon? jon: the nation's most advanced bird detection radar now being tested in an effort to prevent dangerous bird strikes on airplanes. dan springer live at the seattle
tacoma airport. >> reporter: we have seen how birds and planes do not mix well, and now the radar system, the first in the country's, being tested here. they could ultimately give pilots a warning before they hit the birds. each year anywhere between 10,000 and 80,000 bird strikes occur in the u.s., and there is damage to planes in about 10% of the cases. so radar systems being tested here would give pilots a 24/7 view of the bird activity, and also possibly a way to forecast when birds are going to be around airports. jon? jon: on the job hunt today at a college job fair where only students and alumni from 16 big east conference schools are eligible to attend. laura ingal live at madison square garden in new york city. laura? >> reporter: hi, jon. 104 employers are here looking to fill positions in a wide variety of industries. we are talking about health care, sales, finance, you fake it, and all the -- name it, and all the big names are here. a,at&t, apple, wells fargo, the
list goes on and on. job reps say they're seeing something different here this year, the number of alumni who have shown up who have been downsized out of a job looking for just an entry level position. back to you. jon: laura, dan and rina, thank you. jane: new signs out that the bottom line for a lot of us in this country may be looking stronger. according to the federal reserve, people are slowly regaining some of the wealth they've lost in the recession. jenna is here to explain the gains are not huge, but they're significant. jon jon exactly. when your net worth goes up, that means you're going to spend more. it's everything that you own minus your debt, so it's your checking account, your investments, your home minus your mortgage and credit cards, and that's how we get your net worth. every time it goes up $1 in the next one to two years you'll spend 3-4 more cents, which
really adds up. take a look at the 2009 numbers for net worth. more than 54 trillion dollar, that's our net worth overall, it has gained over the last several months which is what we want to see, but compared to pre-recession levels, what we were seeing was net worth way over $65 trillion. so we have to see our net worth increase by 20% to even get back to these levels. something else is when it goes up, it doesn't necessarily go up because we're earning more. what it could be is we're cropping some of our -- dropping some of debt. yes, our stock portfolios look better, but we're also seeing we've defaulted on a lot of debt, so we've had some banks forgiving some of our debt, so our net worth looks better, but that means we definitely went through some tough times to get the banks or lenders to write down some of our losses. jane: jenna, thank you. jon, back to you. jon: this just in, the state department is holding a briefing
this hour clarifying reports about a possible u.s. offensive in somalia. the state department reports that the u.s. will not be getting involved directly in any military way in somalia when it comes to fighting al-qaeda and the militants there. joining us now to talk about that, lieutenant colonel robert mcguinness, also a columnist for human events and frequently writes on somalia. there are real problems with al-qaeda and related groups in the horn of africa, somalia, that part of the world. why would the u.s. not want to get involved militarily, colonel? >> well, clearly, jon, we're involved elsewhere in the world, and if the local governments, ethiopians, kenyans, etc., are willing to take on their own problems in the region, you know, why should we go in there? but at the same time keep in mind we do have quite a few folks in next doory beauty, and we've had them for a long time, and they could be of help if the president decides that's the appropriate action. jon: but the somalis basically aren't even in charge of their
own capital. there was talk the united states would send military advisers in to train the somali army and help, you know, it's sort of like picking between the devil you know and the devil that you don't know, but help the somali government. >> yeah. well, president ahmed who was up in london a couple days ago, jon, he was the one that suggested the u.s. may assist. clearly, there have been some targets of opportunity over the last few years in that region that using operation enduring force transsahara, we have had many opportunities to fight al-qaeda. now, the government, the transitional government there in mogadishu doesn't control the area. al-shabab which is a radical group that kind of spawned out of an invasion by the ethiopians a couple years ago appears to have some ties to al-qaeda. so that government as tenuous as it is has formed a coalition
with the african union and a couple other groups, and they want to rid that particular part of somalia of these radicals, al-shabab. now, we have a vested interest in that because, after all, piracy along that 2,000-mile coastline and right across the gulf of eden is, of course, yemen where we've had some very serious problems that are continuing to brew. jon: we all remember what happened during the clinton administration in mogadishu, the blackhawk down incident, the fact that the state department is saying no u.s. military involvement there, do you think that's a factor there? >> well, of course it is. eighteen soldiers on that particular day in october, i think it was the 3rd, pack in '93 -- back in '93, just a gut wrenching situation where they were dragging our young soldiers' bodies through the streets of that town, so, yes, there are some psychological issues here. keep in mind, jon, we have a lot of our u.s. people in that region. we're very serious about helping
those allies in that part of the world to fight their own fight. we're doing some, obviously, some assistance, security cooperation, a variety of other things to insure that they're successful because ultimately, if they don't do it, yes, we may have to do it, and that's not something we necessarily want to do. jon: lieutenant colonel robert mcguinness, good to talk to you. >> thanks, jon. jon: there is some new information, now, on that situation in seattle we've been telling you about. the s.w.a.t. team in a standoff at the courthouse downtown. reportedly, the suspect is in custody. harris is on it. harris: yeah. the seattle police department just spoke with reporters moments ago, and here's ha they said. the man that they have picked up is being screened right now. he had walked into a mission complaining he was hungry and then began making threats. people inside that gospel mission realized that he had something taped to his arms, so they called for help. he ran to an area near the courthouse, and that's where they ap apprehended him.
there's a robotic device that's gone in to get that device strapped to his body. then police will take him into custody and make the determination what they'll do with that device, but for right now some streets closed off while they bring the situation under control. back to you guys. jon: harris, thank you. jane: they may be the most popular people in washington right now, house democrats still undecided on how to vote on health care reform. one of them is a congressman from ohio, he tells us what democrats need to do to secure his vote. so many arthritis pain relievers --
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once, sizing up inter. tom of the -- sperm. top of the hour. jane: want to get to some breaking news. the senate majority leader harry reid's daughter and wife were hurt in a car accident last night. his daughter has just been released from the hospital, we're being told. there's a photograph of the two of them. this accident happened on i-t 5 in fairfax county, virginia, involved a tractor-trailer and several cars. his wife remains hospitalized at this hour, she is said to be in serious condition with a broken back and neck, but his daughter has been released. we'll keep you updated. jon: you can cut the suspense on capitol hill with a knife right now. democrats huddled for a second straight day behind closed doors in an effort to secure the votes needed to pass health care reform for this country. so what do they need? a handful of democratic lawmakers who are still undecided on how they they will.
joining us is one of the democratic house members from ohio. he voted against the house health care bill the first time around. so as it comes back around, what are you thinking, congressman? >> well, thanks, jon. first of all, our nation needs to have this debate. we need to reform the system and do it in a way that doesn't explode the deficits, contains costs and makes sure we go after waste, fraud and abuse in the system. those are my top lines when we discuss this bill. jon: well, you voted no the first time. what's different this time around that has you undecided? >> well, i, first of all, we don't have a copy of the bill, we haven't had the opportunity to read it, and myself and my staff will go through that with great detail to make sure that we do that when we reform the system. making sure we end the abuse i have practice of the -- abusive practices of the insurance, industry where they drop patients because they get sick or because they had a pre-existing condition and when we see the inflationary costs of health care that are rising
faster than wages and faster than inflation. jon: a lot of house members have said they don't like this process that's going to call for the house to essentially swallow the senate bill and then hope it gets fixed again through reconciliation. here's what senator lamar alexander, a republican obviously, of tennessee said. he says, quote, what the president's really asking house democrats to do is hold hands, jump off a cliff and hope harry reid catches them. is that accurate, and if so, do you trust him to catch you? >> well, i appreciate the senator's remarks, but quite frankly, 0 of the last # 2 -- 20 of the last 22 reconciliation processes have been used by republicans when they controlled congress or by a republican president in the white house, so this is not something that's unfamiliar to them. the process that we're going to use is a simple up or down vote. the american people deserve this, and we defer it in congress -- deserve it in congress. jon: you're being targeted by republicans who hi they might
be -- think they might be able to win back your seat, there are calls going out to voters in your district urging them to get in contact with you and vote no on this bill. how much does that affect what you see as your vote here? >> well, jon, i know i've answered some of those phone calls, and what i can tell you and what i tell them in my district are that members of congress should be less concerned about their own job security and about the job security of americans and their health care security. because when you lose your job in ohio, often times you don't have health care insurance. our nation needs to have this debate, and we need to come to some decision one way or another. an up or down vote yes or no, so applaud the president for pushing us forward on that. jon: but it comes down to nancy pelosi pushing you on one side and a good percentage of voters who elected you on the other side, right? >> well, i stood up for my district, i voted against the first house version. i didn't think it went far enough, and i'm hopeful as we move forward that we reform the system. we've voted for a number of
measures that reform the system like making sure that children in our country have access to health care, all children. so i'm not afraid to cast a tough vote, and i'm not afraid to stand up to leadership in doing so. jon: congressman, thank you. >> thank you, jon. jane: take a look at these shapes. they look like kids' vitamin, don't they? they're actually the latest dangerous party drug disguised as snoopy, bart simpson, even president obama. are you a parent or a grandparent? what you need to know. [ crowd cheering ]
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frenzy or nemesis. it comes in a whole lot of shapes, bart simpson, snoopy, now they even have them in the shape of president obama's head. this drug is legal in canada. the concern is that it's been coming across the border to the united states. dea special agent rich izaakson is with us in detroit. thanks for being here. i mean, this is particularly tricky, if i was a parent, i'm not so sure i would know what my kid was taking if i saw him taking a bart simpson pill. >> yeah, thank you for having me. this certainly is an issue that needs to be made parents and grandparents aware and children. it's a perception of risk issue. a lot of young people think if they don't have to smoke, snort or inject it, it's not dangerous. just because you swallow it does not mean it's not dangerous. it has amphetamine-type responses. jane: what does it do to a kid? >> well, it's, it's, you know, it's a stimulant, so all of your
body's response ises are increased. so your heart rate, blood pressure, respiration rate, everything is increased. a last of times -- lot of times people use it in party situations as a still hasn't, so when you combine the physical activity, you have dehydration, and the come by nation of -- combination of that and your body temperature being raised can lead to being potentially lethal as your muscle proteins start to break down in your body. jane: how do you stop kids from using this? >> well, certainly it's dea's mission to identify these growing drug trends, and that's certainly what we're doing here, and we're trying to allocate our resources to halt those trends from growing. so we work with our state and local counterparts, we work closely with our counterparts in canada, and we're trying to stop this trend. but also, you know, raising public awareness. what we call in dea is demand reduction, reduce demand through education much like we're doing
right now. if we can raise the level of awareness and let young people know, hey, this is truly a dangerous drug, if we can raise that level of perception of risk, it's likely that the user rates will come down. jane: very quickly, rich, are the penalty rates steep enough? >> it's a schedule i drug, so there certainly are penalties. some of the states are enacting legislation to make the laws stricter, so certainly that's an ongoing issue. the federal government has placed it in the same level as heroin and ecstasy and marijuana, so it's a schedule i drug in the eyes of the federal government. jane: rich izaakson out of dea, thanks. >> thanks for having me. jon: democrats say they might have the votes to pass a historic health care reform bill. could abortion scuttle this thing? congressman anthony wiener checks in as the president's top legislative priority hangs in
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jon: the catholic arch bish ole of denver is defending a decision not to allow children of two gay parents to reenroll, the ash bishop says it's a painful decision but in line with church teachings, correspondent lauren green with more. >> reporter: the decision by sacred heart of jesus in boulder is dividing a community, they told the lesbian couple the children could finish out the school year but could not come back the next year. the family has not gone public but gay and lesbian advocacy groups are rallying , and the archbishop saying parents living in open discord with faith and morals unfortunately choose by their actions to disqualify their children from enrollment. the school says they're protecting the children so as not to confuse them with teaching them in conflict with how they're being
raised. the parents have not announced a plan to mount a legal fight. jon: lauren green, thank you. jane: that's going to do it for us, "america live" is up next. have a good weekend. megyn: this is a fox news alert on the final push to pass health care, the speaker of the house saying her members need assurances from the senate before they will vote for the president's health care bill. here is speaker nancy pelosi on capitol hill a little more than an hour ago. >> under the reconciliation, the simple majority, the constitutional majority, i think members are much more comfortable about the fact that this reconciliation will happen. nonetheless, there are certain assurances that they want and they we will get for them before i ask them to take the vote. megyn: live pictures now from the white house, the president has now delayed his overseas trip in order to try to wrap up health care. new details are expected this hour on the new